Need Descend Now option in Dialog

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mdapol
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Need Descend Now option in Dialog

Post by mdapol »

Hi, really enjoy your product however there is one addition that is needed. Often I arrive at Top of Descent before ATC has instructed me to descend. If I descend, ATC wants me to return to cruise altitude, but if I don't descend I will not maintain my descent profile. Also, if I descend according to my descent profile and ignore the ATC, it never hands me off to Tower so I just have to ignore it from that point on. The ATC dialog box needs an option during cruise to Request Descent which would solve this problem. Thanks
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Re: Need Descend Now option in Dialog

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mdapol wrote: Tue Apr 21, 2020 1:04 am Hi, really enjoy your product however there is one addition that is needed. Often I arrive at Top of Descent before ATC has instructed me to descend. If I descend, ATC wants me to return to cruise altitude, but if I don't descend I will not maintain my descent profile. Also, if I descend according to my descent profile and ignore the ATC, it never hands me off to Tower so I just have to ignore it from that point on. The ATC dialog box needs an option during cruise to Request Descent which would solve this problem. Thanks
Very good Idea.
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Re: Need Descend Now option in Dialog

Post by Bulva »

In the ATC dialog you can ask to change the altitude (Request cruising altitude change), but ATC often does not agree. ;-)

I think, the idea by mdapol is be very good.
mdapol
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Re: Need Descend Now option in Dialog

Post by mdapol »

You can use the altitude change to go lower but it won't put you in descent mode and you won't be handed off to Approach unless 124th ATC initiates it. I've tried this several times and it just doesn't work unless you violate your own vnav profile.
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Re: Need Descend Now option in Dialog

Post by qfmusiq »

Great Idea!!
It doesnt work for me also, once i reach top of decent i dont think i can ask to change altitude.
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Re: Need Descend Now option in Dialog

Post by dougjuk »

I tried this plugin for the first time yesterday, I like it very much but I need to sort a few issues. one of them is this one that you are discussing. The ATC missed the decent and I left it for quite a bit until I just went for it. The ATC kept trying to get me to climb back to Fl230 even when directly above the destination airport.

I ignored the ATC and went down wind following normal procedures for this airport then the ATC kicked back in correctly.

So far my issue is only with the Centre which keeps doing odd things like this.

regards

Doug
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Re: Need Descend Now option in Dialog

Post by dougjuk »

Just as an update I flew the same leg again after replanning etc. Instead of being told to defend down to 4000 feet overhead the airfield which is part of the STAR it tried to keep me at FL230 overhead.

I ignored it again and flew the standard approach, ATC failed completely asking me to climb to FL230 when I was on the ILS, then handed me to tower which did not respond.

I am going to leave it for now it does not work for me.

Doug
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Re: Need Descend Now option in Dialog

Post by ntnll »

mdapol wrote: Tue Apr 21, 2020 1:04 am Hi, really enjoy your product however there is one addition that is needed. Often I arrive at Top of Descent before ATC has instructed me to descend. If I descend, ATC wants me to return to cruise altitude, but if I don't descend I will not maintain my descent profile. Also, if I descend according to my descent profile and ignore the ATC, it never hands me off to Tower so I just have to ignore it from that point on. The ATC dialog box needs an option during cruise to Request Descent which would solve this problem. Thanks
Hi mdapol,
good idea I'll implement it :D

Cheers,
a.
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cforker
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Re: Need Descend Now option in Dialog

Post by cforker »

Hi, I have kind of the same problem here. So what I normally do is following the instructions. Normally it will take some time before ATC instructs me to decend and hand me over to tower. The strange thing is that every time I fly EHAM to EDDH I don't get any instructions to land. Never!!! I tried to follow the instructions for 2 hours but ATC wil send me around for that time. I've never been able to land!

Any idea what causes that problem?

C.
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Re: Need Descend Now option in Dialog

Post by fleurenf »

cforker wrote: Thu Dec 03, 2020 4:46 pm Hi, I have kind of the same problem here. So what I normally do is following the instructions. Normally it will take some time before ATC instructs me to decend and hand me over to tower. The strange thing is that every time I fly EHAM to EDDH I don't get any instructions to land. Never!!! I tried to follow the instructions for 2 hours but ATC wil send me around for that time. I've never been able to land!

Any idea what causes that problem?

C.
Just wondering if you activated the TOD in the ATC Dialog.
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ntnll
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Re: Need Descend Now option in Dialog

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fleurenf wrote: Tue Jan 12, 2021 11:11 am
cforker wrote: Thu Dec 03, 2020 4:46 pm Hi, I have kind of the same problem here. So what I normally do is following the instructions. Normally it will take some time before ATC instructs me to decend and hand me over to tower. The strange thing is that every time I fly EHAM to EDDH I don't get any instructions to land. Never!!! I tried to follow the instructions for 2 hours but ATC wil send me around for that time. I've never been able to land!

Any idea what causes that problem?

C.
Just wondering if you activated the TOD in the ATC Dialog.
hi mate, still in an embryonic state, I'll try to find time to improve it.
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