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Waypoint +0 +0
Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:14 pm
by Bakanski
I know little about aviation and my English is terrible, so please be kind.
During a flight, some time after take-off, the flightplan is changing to use Waypoint "+0 +0" almost everytime I use 124thATC. However, I just made a test flight with the default Cessna 172 without activating "Look for SIDs and Stars" and "Manual select SID/STAR", without any issues. But I am pretty sure I have experienced this issue before, without using the SID / STAR option when flying a default X-plane aircraft.
Some details:
- using 124thATCv2.0-a60
- using add-on aircraft Cessna Caravan Supercargo, GNS430
- using FMS data from Navigraph copied to *\X-Plane 11\Resources\plugins\124thATC64\navdata
What am I doing wrong?
Re: Waypoint +0 +0
Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:41 pm
by scooke
Hi,
Don't worry about your English, it's perfectly fine!
Although you say you're using v2.0-a60 of the plugin, the log.txt file contains lines like this:
124thATC v2.0-a61 22:03:06: D:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\X-Plane 11\Custom Scenery
124thATC v2.0-a61 22:03:37: checking D:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\X-Plane 11\Resources\plugins\124thATC64\navdata\earth_nav.dat version
124thATC v2.0-a61 22:03:37: earth_nav.dat version: 2012
It looks like you're using v2.0-a61 which is not what I am using. In fact I can't even find it!
I would suggest that you move this version & replace it with the a60 version which is the latest stable version.
If you still get the same waypoint +0+0 error, then we know that the version is not the problem.
And if you don't get the error, then we know what the problem is!
Hope this helps,
Cheers,
Steve
Re: Waypoint +0 +0
Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2020 7:53 pm
by Bakanski
Thanks Steve,
I noticed this too, but how can I find the a60-version? I have downloaded from this site:
https://sourceforge.net/projects/ntnll-124thatc/files/
It looks like I am running a61 on my local desktop, but it is not possible to download that version on sourceforge. Could it be that you have mixed up the files on the download-site?
Re: Waypoint +0 +0
Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2020 8:43 pm
by scooke
Hi,
I had a look at my Log.txt files going back 6 months & I couldn't find any with a61.
I suspect you may have downloaded a version which was maybe pulled by Antonello because it was buggy. I could be wrong.
So, that's why I suggested that you move this version away (do not delete) & download again & install.
Cheers,
Steve
Re: Waypoint +0 +0
Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2020 8:59 pm
by Bakanski
Hi Steve,
I am afraid I already removed the 124thATC folder a couple of weeks ago and then I downloaded the a60-version again, before reporting the issue here. I have once again downloaded the a60-version from sourceforge, but I guess the log will tell me I am running a61.
Not a big deal really, I can live without the ATC. The application used to work in the beginning, and I really appreciated the add-on.
Re: Waypoint +0 +0
Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2020 3:08 pm
by Duke748
I think it's this Waypoint +0 +0 issue that's causing my problems as well. That would be where the Greenwich Meridian crosses the Equator, I guess. No wonder I'm getting vectored to 179 degrees when I get near Newcastle Airport. It might also explain why I'm not getting automatic descent vectors as 124thATC thinks I'm still thousands of miles away from my destination. For now I'm happy to request lower altitudes manually and ignore the 179 degree instruction. Hope it can be resolved though.
I wish I knew exactly when this started to happen but I've been spending a lot of time flying in the new Microsoft Flight Sim and I've only recently returned to X-Plane.
Cheers
Nick C
Re: Waypoint +0 +0
Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2020 3:40 pm
by ntnll
Hi guys,
the 61 is now available on the webpage as well (it was previously only available from liveupdate).
anybody else is having the 0/0 issue here?
thanks,
Antonello
Re: Waypoint +0 +0
Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2020 5:53 pm
by scooke
ntnll wrote: ↑Fri Dec 04, 2020 3:40 pm
Hi guys,
the 61 is now available on the webpage as well (it was previously only available from liveupdate).
anybody else is having the 0/0 issue here?
thanks,
Antonello
Thanks for that, mate.
Cheers,
Steve
Re: Waypoint +0 +0
Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 4:24 pm
by Duke748
Thanks Antonello.
Just tried a flight from Dublin to Newcastle with v a61. Still getting this 0/0 problem with the ILS waypoint, I'm afraid:
124thATC v2.0-a61 15:38:46: SetILSPath ILS entered: Lat 0.000000 Lon 0.000000
124thATC v2.0-a61 15:38:46: AddToFlightPlan: Adding ILS - 0.000000 0.000000
124thATC v2.0-a61 15:38:46: AddToFlightPlan: Adding Runway 07 - 55.033520 -1.706471
124thATC v2.0-a61 15:38:46: Entering FMS Programming (processing 14 fixes)
124thATC v2.0-a61 15:38:46: FMS cleared, entries now: 0
124thATC v2.0-a61 15:38:46: Programming FMS Departure Runway
124thATC v2.0-a61 15:38:46: Programming FMS Arrival Runway
124thATC v2.0-a61 15:38:46: Entering unknow FMS type (NavType 0) - (index, lat, lon, FL): 14, 55.033520, -1.706471, 0 Runway 07
124thATC v2.0-a61 15:38:46: Programing XPLMSetDisplayedFMSEntry to 7 (fp/FMS: POL POL)
124thATC v2.0-a61 15:38:46: Programming FMS XPLMSetDestinationFMSEntry fix to 7
124thATC v2.0-a61 15:38:46: FMS fix 1/16: EIDW
124thATC v2.0-a61 15:38:46: FMS fix 2/16: +53 -6
124thATC v2.0-a61 15:38:46: FMS fix 3/16: LIFFY
124thATC v2.0-a61 15:38:46: FMS fix 4/16: RULAV
124thATC v2.0-a61 15:38:46: FMS fix 5/16: ABGEP
124thATC v2.0-a61 15:38:46: FMS fix 6/16: ALAVA
124thATC v2.0-a61 15:38:46: FMS fix 7/16: MALUD
124thATC v2.0-a61 15:38:46: FMS fix 8/16: WAL
124thATC v2.0-a61 15:38:46: FMS fix 9/16: POL
124thATC v2.0-a61 15:38:46: FMS fix 10/16: +54 -2
124thATC v2.0-a61 15:38:46: FMS fix 11/16: +54 -2
124thATC v2.0-a61 15:38:46: FMS fix 12/16: +55 -2
124thATC v2.0-a61 15:38:46: FMS fix 13/16: +55 -2
124thATC v2.0-a61 15:38:46: FMS fix 14/16: +0 +0
124thATC v2.0-a61 15:38:46: FMS fix 15/16: +55 -2
124thATC v2.0-a61 15:38:46: FMS fix 16/16: EGNT
Cheers
Nick
Re: Waypoint +0 +0
Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 12:08 am
by ntnll
Duke748 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 05, 2020 4:24 pm
Thanks Antonello.
Just tried a flight from Dublin to Newcastle with v a61. Still getting this 0/0 problem with the ILS waypoint, I'm afraid:
124thATC v2.0-a61 15:38:46: SetILSPath ILS entered: Lat 0.000000 Lon 0.000000
124thATC v2.0-a61 15:38:46: AddToFlightPlan: Adding ILS - 0.000000 0.000000
124thATC v2.0-a61 15:38:46: AddToFlightPlan: Adding Runway 07 - 55.033520 -1.706471
124thATC v2.0-a61 15:38:46: Entering FMS Programming (processing 14 fixes)
124thATC v2.0-a61 15:38:46: FMS cleared, entries now: 0
124thATC v2.0-a61 15:38:46: Programming FMS Departure Runway
124thATC v2.0-a61 15:38:46: Programming FMS Arrival Runway
124thATC v2.0-a61 15:38:46: Entering unknow FMS type (NavType 0) - (index, lat, lon, FL): 14, 55.033520, -1.706471, 0 Runway 07
124thATC v2.0-a61 15:38:46: Programing XPLMSetDisplayedFMSEntry to 7 (fp/FMS: POL POL)
124thATC v2.0-a61 15:38:46: Programming FMS XPLMSetDestinationFMSEntry fix to 7
124thATC v2.0-a61 15:38:46: FMS fix 1/16: EIDW
124thATC v2.0-a61 15:38:46: FMS fix 2/16: +53 -6
124thATC v2.0-a61 15:38:46: FMS fix 3/16: LIFFY
124thATC v2.0-a61 15:38:46: FMS fix 4/16: RULAV
124thATC v2.0-a61 15:38:46: FMS fix 5/16: ABGEP
124thATC v2.0-a61 15:38:46: FMS fix 6/16: ALAVA
124thATC v2.0-a61 15:38:46: FMS fix 7/16: MALUD
124thATC v2.0-a61 15:38:46: FMS fix 8/16: WAL
124thATC v2.0-a61 15:38:46: FMS fix 9/16: POL
124thATC v2.0-a61 15:38:46: FMS fix 10/16: +54 -2
124thATC v2.0-a61 15:38:46: FMS fix 11/16: +54 -2
124thATC v2.0-a61 15:38:46: FMS fix 12/16: +55 -2
124thATC v2.0-a61 15:38:46: FMS fix 13/16: +55 -2
124thATC v2.0-a61 15:38:46: FMS fix 14/16: +0 +0
124thATC v2.0-a61 15:38:46: FMS fix 15/16: +55 -2
124thATC v2.0-a61 15:38:46: FMS fix 16/16: EGNT
Cheers
Nick
I'll have a look, thanks mate,
a.
Re: Waypoint +0 +0
Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 6:51 pm
by tlchristy
To end the 0,0 waypoint error you must use X-Plane Navdata 11.40 version with the 124TH ATC - In other words do not use the 11.50 Navdata with 124TH ATC...
Download 11.50 for the sim but download 11.40 for use with the 124th plugin...
Re: Waypoint +0 +0
Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2020 7:46 pm
by Duke748
Hi tlchristy
Yeah, I thought the latest Navigraph stuff might have been the culprit as the 0/0 issue seemed to start after I installed installed the 2012 XP 11.50 Navigraph update. I'll go back to 11.41- version for 124thATC and see if that works OK.
Thanks for the heads up but any idea what's changed?
Cheers
Nick C
Re: Waypoint +0 +0
Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2020 12:36 pm
by Duke748
Hi All
The fix suggested by tlchristy seems to work. I've just tried my old Exeter to Newcastle route and got perfect vectors to land on R07. So just make sure that you load the XP 11.41- Navigraph data into 124thATC rather than the newer 11.50 version. Great to have this up and running again
Cheers
Nick C
Re: Waypoint +0 +0
Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2020 10:05 pm
by ntnll
Hi guys, thanks for investigating the issue and propose the workaround. I'll work on the patch, hopefully is not gonna take too long!
a.
Re: Waypoint +0 +0
Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2020 11:46 pm
by Duke748
No problem mate. Just glad we got your excellent ATC add on working again
Missed it a lot when it wasn't working properly.
Cheers
Nick C