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RandomUser
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Re: RCs public previews

Post by RandomUser » Tue Feb 12, 2019 9:13 pm

argonius wrote:
Tue Feb 12, 2019 9:21 am
Good point, never have thought about. :idea:
Only found out about this by sheer necessity during one flight.

nex
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Re: RCs public previews

Post by nex » Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:40 am

RandomUser wrote:
Sun Feb 10, 2019 8:27 pm

Speaking of: Can the "Look for SID/STARs" function from the flight plan tool be moved to the controller dialogs?

Something like:
"Request clearance (no SID)"
"Request clearance (pick SID)"
"Request clearance (Auto-SID)"

"Use vectored approach"
"Use STAR approach (pick STAR)"
"Use STAR approach (Auto-STAR)"

That would be a really nice addition and it would make the tool much more usable and versatile. Would love to see this!

Andi111882
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Re: RCs public previews

Post by Andi111882 » Thu Feb 14, 2019 6:26 pm

Maybe I missed something but could someone please tell me how to manually select SID/STAR?
I saw some screenshots of a SID/STAR selection dialog in this thread but I don't really know where to find it.

ntnll
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Re: RCs public previews

Post by ntnll » Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:38 pm

Last build a60RC24 uploaded.
A lot of changes have been made on the code, I expect any kind of bug. This is the last massive rewriting on the code for the version .60, in the next days I'll concentrate on improving stability and fix the last bugs, then release.
I introduced a basic support for the altitude restrictions, and emergency phase rewritten. Both functionality new, so be patients with the bugs.
a.

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Re: RCs public previews

Post by vittop » Thu Feb 14, 2019 10:41 pm

ntnll wrote:
Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:38 pm
Last build a60RC24 uploaded.
A lot of changes have been made on the code, I expect any kind of bug. This is the last massive rewriting on the code for the version .60, in the next days I'll concentrate on improving stability and fix the last bugs, then release.
I introduced a basic support for the altitude restrictions, and emergency phase rewritten. Both functionality new, so be patients with the bugs.
a.
Hi. Here is my 1st RC24 test: KGRF vfr to KOLM, FL80. Had an issue only when contacting Olympia App, since "I" claimed to be descending to 0 feet without any order from previous Center to do so, while I was still climbing to FL80 as cleared:

124thATC v2.0-a60RC24 23:19:37: Communication: Olympia Regional approach, good afternoon, N172SP passing flight level 53, descending 0 feet

Please find the usual debug pkg attached.
bugReport.tar.gz
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ntnll
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Re: RCs public previews

Post by ntnll » Fri Feb 15, 2019 4:55 am

Andi111882 wrote:
Thu Feb 14, 2019 6:26 pm
Maybe I missed something but could someone please tell me how to manually select SID/STAR?
I saw some screenshots of a SID/STAR selection dialog in this thread but I don't really know where to find it.
Hi Andi111882,
A window dialog should opens after filing the flight plan for SID, and another in flight for STAR. This can works only if your navdata are correctly installed (see manual)

ntnll
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Re: RCs public previews

Post by ntnll » Fri Feb 15, 2019 4:57 am

vittop wrote:
Thu Feb 14, 2019 10:41 pm
ntnll wrote:
Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:38 pm
Last build a60RC24 uploaded.
A lot of changes have been made on the code, I expect any kind of bug. This is the last massive rewriting on the code for the version .60, in the next days I'll concentrate on improving stability and fix the last bugs, then release.
I introduced a basic support for the altitude restrictions, and emergency phase rewritten. Both functionality new, so be patients with the bugs.
a.
Hi. Here is my 1st RC24 test: KGRF vfr to KOLM, FL80. Had an issue only when contacting Olympia App, since "I" claimed to be descending to 0 feet without any order from previous Center to do so, while I was still climbing to FL80 as cleared:

124thATC v2.0-a60RC24 23:19:37: Communication: Olympia Regional approach, good afternoon, N172SP passing flight level 53, descending 0 feet

Please find the usual debug pkg attached.
bugReport.tar.gz
Hi vitto, thanks for your feedback.
Yes I experienced this issue a couple of times, I'm investigating
Happy to see no crashes and other relevant bugs..

A.

ntnll
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Re: RCs public previews

Post by ntnll » Fri Feb 15, 2019 5:12 am

argonius wrote:
Sun Feb 10, 2019 1:57 pm
Hi,

Just did a flight with RC23 from BIEG to BIRK (BRUSI ASKJA ARNAR BLAMI TIBRA). No crash even with using custom commands.

Departure was fine. But I don't understand why the plugin is adding some (IMHO) weird approximation waypoints in transition from STAR to approach. In this flight I have selected STAR TIBR1N and RWY 19. TIBR1N ends at KUSUR and KUSUR is IAF of the ILS approach to RWY19. So, why is the plugin adding two approximation waypoints? You can see the loop it made me fly on the map attached.

Also, the initial descent to FL150 is very early if you compare it to the TOD calculated by Little Navmap (using 1200 fpm in Navmap and in plugin settings).

BR
Christian
Hi Chris,
the approx points are added in order to provide a smoother approach in the scenarios where the STAR approach doesn't. I'll probably give the opportunity in the future to disable this function in the options

ntnll
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Re: RCs public previews

Post by ntnll » Fri Feb 15, 2019 5:16 am

RandomUser wrote:
Sun Feb 10, 2019 8:27 pm
When flying STARs, I usually ignore vectoring calls.

Ideally, 124th wouldn't vector you at all if the current approach mode is STAR (and only provide speed and alitude clearance), but you'd be able to revert to a vectored approach at any time (to make a short visual final or so).

Speaking of: Can the "Look for SID/STARs" function from the flight plan tool be moved to the controller dialogs?

Something like:
"Request clearance (no SID)"
"Request clearance (pick SID)"
"Request clearance (Auto-SID)"

"Use vectored approach"
"Use STAR approach (pick STAR)"
"Use STAR approach (Auto-STAR)"
Hi RandomUser,
I'll think about that, feel free to propose it in the correct section.
a.

Othello
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Re: RCs public previews

Post by Othello » Sat Feb 16, 2019 9:10 am

Hi Antonello,

maybe it is somehow helpful:
https://developer.x-plane.com/2019/02/t ... read-safe/

Günther

Excuse me please using the wrong name,
Last edited by Othello on Sat Feb 16, 2019 7:38 pm, edited 1 time in total.

vittop
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Re: RCs public previews

Post by vittop » Sat Feb 16, 2019 10:13 am

ntnll wrote:
Fri Feb 15, 2019 4:57 am
vittop wrote:
Thu Feb 14, 2019 10:41 pm
ntnll wrote:
Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:38 pm
Last build a60RC24 uploaded.
A lot of changes have been made on the code, I expect any kind of bug. This is the last massive rewriting on the code for the version .60, in the next days I'll concentrate on improving stability and fix the last bugs, then release.
I introduced a basic support for the altitude restrictions, and emergency phase rewritten. Both functionality new, so be patients with the bugs.
a.
Hi. Here is my 1st RC24 test: KGRF vfr to KOLM, FL80. Had an issue only when contacting Olympia App, since "I" claimed to be descending to 0 feet without any order from previous Center to do so, while I was still climbing to FL80 as cleared:

124thATC v2.0-a60RC24 23:19:37: Communication: Olympia Regional approach, good afternoon, N172SP passing flight level 53, descending 0 feet

Please find the usual debug pkg attached.
bugReport.tar.gz
Hi vitto, thanks for your feedback.
Yes I experienced this issue a couple of times, I'm investigating
Happy to see no crashes and other relevant bugs..

A.
Retried using RC24 on same flight as above, but this time IFR w/automatic STAR/SID. Sadly, for two times I had the crash just after acknolwledging T/O clearance from TWR. I was using my newly licensed 11.31 XP11 under Ubuntu 16.04, please find both bugReports attached:
bugReport2.tar.gz
bugReport1.tar.gz
(Btw, I also went back to test RC24 to my "old" XP11 11.31 Demo under another OS (LM18) but with same crash at same stage)
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RandomUser
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Re: RCs public previews

Post by RandomUser » Sat Feb 16, 2019 3:00 pm

Some of the crashes can be attributed to X-Plane, which seems to be quite unstable as of 11.32.

ntnll wrote:
Fri Feb 15, 2019 5:16 am
Hi RandomUser,
I'll think about that, feel free to propose it in the correct section.
a.
Done.

Phoenix591
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Re: RCs public previews

Post by Phoenix591 » Sun Feb 17, 2019 4:52 am

Had a sort of similar issue re: the 0 ft thing. It gave me my full cruise altitude (FL350) as my initial altitude (Departing KMSP 30L via RST1 SID where the initial altitude should be around 7000 ft ) then when taking off and climbing 'I' was saying decending to 0 ft.
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toelg
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Re: RCs public previews

Post by toelg » Sun Feb 17, 2019 10:16 am

Hi Antonello.

first good news : For several weeks, there occurred no more crash by 124thATC at my system (think it should be since RC19 or RC20) . :)

Yesterday I did a short flight, to test RC24 (EDDL to EKCH).
It seems a little bug crept into RC24 : There are no more steps regarding to climb and descent. At departure, I got immediately clearance for FL320 and near about EDDH, I got the instruction to descent to FL0. I tried to request another FL, but ATC ignored this and always gave FL0 to me.

II've attached my bugReport, to help to find the bug.

Thanks for Your great work !
Dietmar
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RandomUser
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Re: RCs public previews

Post by RandomUser » Sun Feb 17, 2019 8:54 pm

Just tested RC24 from LEPA to EDDV in 11.32b1 and the 737-800X v3.33h.

No XP crash and center handoff finally worked again!

But I can confirm the altitude related bugs:
- No intermediate altitudes while receiving clearance. It was straight to cruise flight level.
- Descent instreuctions came very early with hardly any intermediate altitudes (From FL350 to FL160 and then to 0 feet)

Additionally:
- After changing arrival runway and STAR, center wanted be to climb to cruise altitude again
- Requesting a cruise altitude change does not interpret the value in the text box as flight level. Entering "50" means 50 feet instead of FL050, i.e. 5000 ft now.

Except for this, 124th seems to be on a good way again. Thanks!

The bug report is attached.
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