Release Candidate (RC) Version - Download and Feedback

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vittop
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Re: Release Candidate (RC) Version - Download and Feedback

Post by vittop » Tue Oct 15, 2019 10:53 pm

ntnll wrote:
Sat Oct 12, 2019 1:43 pm
a60RC58 uploaded, fixing the Shane's bug. Thanks Shane for reporting it, good spot.

I'm having some issues with my service provider, for some reasons the updates url are getting access denied on CURL request (not from browsers :shock: ), so you'll probably will not be able to perform auto-updates from the plugin, please update manually for now, and sorry for the inconvenience.

Cheers,
a.
Hi Antonello, FYI I updated my XP11.36 Demo/Linux Mint manually from zip file before built-in update mechanism resumed working, and had same issue as mentioned in my previous tests and I fixed issue as already done, i.e. changing departure airport after update. Then I used instead built-in update mechanism for my XP11.36 Full/Ubuntu: no problem.
[Using XP11.36|Ubuntu 16.04\Mint 18.3|Kernel 4.15.0-60|amdgpu opensource driver]

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Re: Release Candidate (RC) Version - Download and Feedback

Post by ntnll » Fri Oct 18, 2019 6:54 pm

stewy81 wrote:
Thu Oct 10, 2019 8:55 pm
Trying out RC57 today with x plane 11.40. Had issues with 124th telling me to descend to 3600 feet continuously while displaying the restrictions for each waypoint as I had them on my flight documents......attached is screenshot from in sim and the bug report. My restrictions had min and max altitudes. Airac is 1911

Thanks,
Hi stewy81,
I'm unable to replicate your issue, I'll try anyway later in the weekend. Please tell me if you'll face the issue with the next build.

Thanks,
Antonello
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ntnll
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Re: Release Candidate (RC) Version - Download and Feedback

Post by ntnll » Fri Oct 18, 2019 7:01 pm

2.0-a60RC59 online.

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earlcw
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Re: Release Candidate (RC) Version - Download and Feedback

Post by earlcw » Sat Oct 19, 2019 4:37 pm

Installed RC59 and first flight I crashed while taxiing post landing.

Rolled back to RC58 reflew the flight same time/weather and no crash.

Using Navigraph 1911.1
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Re: Release Candidate (RC) Version - Download and Feedback

Post by ntnll » Sun Oct 20, 2019 12:25 pm

earlcw wrote:
Sat Oct 19, 2019 4:37 pm
Installed RC59 and first flight I crashed while taxiing post landing.

Rolled back to RC58 reflew the flight same time/weather and no crash.

Using Navigraph 1911.1
Hi earlcw, I had a crash too, working on that, thanks for reporting
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Re: Release Candidate (RC) Version - Download and Feedback

Post by SHaneD » Mon Oct 21, 2019 4:58 pm

I'm using 124thATC v2.0-a60RC60, had a problem approach today.

Flying between DAAG & DAUK (in Algeria) everything was ok up until approach, I was offered 01 to land on, I declined and went for 19 (as the preferential runway), routing for 19 came up on the ND, I was then surprised to be given clearance for 01 not 19 when I approached the airport (wind was 321 @ 7 at that moment), I followed the routing on the ND and made my way to the airport and landed with no further problems
approach routing highlight.jpg
showing routing for 19 on ND and the clearance for landing 01 in the message window
bugReport.7z
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Re: Release Candidate (RC) Version - Download and Feedback

Post by ntnll » Wed Oct 23, 2019 10:19 pm

stewy81 wrote:
Thu Oct 10, 2019 8:55 pm
Trying out RC57 today with x plane 11.40. Had issues with 124th telling me to descend to 3600 feet continuously while displaying the restrictions for each waypoint as I had them on my flight documents......attached is screenshot from in sim and the bug report. My restrictions had min and max altitudes. Airac is 1911

Thanks,
Bug fixed stewy81, thanks for reporting it.
RC61 online, hopefully the last one of this intense version.
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Re: Release Candidate (RC) Version - Download and Feedback

Post by ntnll » Thu Oct 24, 2019 7:57 am

SHaneD wrote:
Mon Oct 21, 2019 4:58 pm
I'm using 124thATC v2.0-a60RC60, had a problem approach today.

Flying between DAAG & DAUK (in Algeria) everything was ok up until approach, I was offered 01 to land on, I declined and went for 19 (as the preferential runway), routing for 19 came up on the ND, I was then surprised to be given clearance for 01 not 19 when I approached the airport (wind was 321 @ 7 at that moment), I followed the routing on the ND and made my way to the airport and landed with no further problems

approach routing highlight.jpg

showing routing for 19 on ND and the clearance for landing 01 in the message window

bugReport.7z

ShaneD
Thanks ShaneD for reporting, testing it hopefully tonight :)
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Re: Release Candidate (RC) Version - Download and Feedback

Post by ntnll » Thu Oct 24, 2019 10:11 am

SHaneD wrote:
Mon Oct 21, 2019 4:58 pm
I'm using 124thATC v2.0-a60RC60, had a problem approach today.

Flying between DAAG & DAUK (in Algeria) everything was ok up until approach, I was offered 01 to land on, I declined and went for 19 (as the preferential runway), routing for 19 came up on the ND, I was then surprised to be given clearance for 01 not 19 when I approached the airport (wind was 321 @ 7 at that moment), I followed the routing on the ND and made my way to the airport and landed with no further problems

approach routing highlight.jpg

showing routing for 19 on ND and the clearance for landing 01 in the message window

bugReport.7z

ShaneD
HI ShaneD,
checking your log:

Code: Select all

No airport flows found, wind less than 10 knots (7 knots). Get runway by location...
So basically because the wind was just 7 knots, the plugin ignored it, and picked up the runway by location. The plugin in facts ignores the wind under 10 knots.

Having a reading about it on IVAO, I found the correct approach would be ignore it under the 5 knots, instead 10:

If the wind speed is lower than 5 knots, the wind can be considered not important as a selection criteria.

I'll make some further readings and I'll decide if reduce the threshold to 5 knots.
I'm open to any suggestion regarding the best approach, as I'm not really a real pilot.

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Re: Release Candidate (RC) Version - Download and Feedback

Post by ruetzi » Thu Oct 24, 2019 12:57 pm

ntnll wrote:
Thu Oct 24, 2019 10:11 am

So basically because the wind was just 7 knots, the plugin ignored it, and picked up the runway by location. The plugin in facts ignores the wind under 10 knots.
Having a reading about it on IVAO, I found the correct approach would be ignore it under the 5 knots, instead 10:
If the wind speed is lower than 5 knots, the wind can be considered not important as a selection criteria.

I'll make some further readings and I'll decide if reduce the threshold to 5 knots.
I'm open to any suggestion regarding the best approach, as I'm not really a real pilot.
A.
That was one reason why I gave this suggestion:
ruetzi wrote:
Thu Aug 22, 2019 10:47 am

If I am offered the SIDs when submitting the flight plan, it would be useful, to be able to change the offered RW at this point. Not only after selection of the SID and confirmation. Just like with the offer of the STARs.
But I cannot estimate how much effort this would cost.
But I've already put that in the brainstorming section.
Greeting
ruetzi

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Re: Release Candidate (RC) Version - Download and Feedback

Post by ntnll » Thu Oct 24, 2019 2:43 pm

ruetzi wrote:
Thu Oct 24, 2019 12:57 pm

That was one reason why I gave this suggestion:

If I am offered the SIDs when submitting the flight plan, it would be useful, to be able to change the offered RW at this point. Not only after selection of the SID and confirmation. Just like with the offer of the STARs.
But I cannot estimate how much effort this would cost.

But I've already put that in the brainstorming section.
Greeting
ruetzi
Hi ruetzi,
This changes is surprising complicate because the nature of the call back dialogs, I'll try anyway to implement it in the next versions.
Right now I need to freeze this version and release. ;)
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Re: Release Candidate (RC) Version - Download and Feedback

Post by ruetzi » Thu Oct 24, 2019 2:50 pm

Flight from LIME to LOWI. Landing on rw 08 planned. Until RTT and at the following flight against the landing direction everything is clear. Only at the turn to the left on rw 08 the altitude of 9400 feet was not sufficient and the crash took place on the mountain slope.

But that should not be a reason not to release the new version.

Greeting an good luck
ruetzi
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Re: Release Candidate (RC) Version - Download and Feedback

Post by ruetzi » Thu Oct 24, 2019 2:56 pm

ntnll wrote:
Thu Oct 24, 2019 2:43 pm

This changes is surprising complicate because the nature of the call back dialogs,
That's the reason I wrote back then:
ruetzi wrote:
Thu Aug 22, 2019 10:47 am

But I cannot estimate how much effort this would cost.

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Re: Release Candidate (RC) Version - Download and Feedback

Post by ntnll » Thu Oct 24, 2019 3:22 pm

ruetzi wrote:
Thu Oct 24, 2019 2:50 pm
Flight from LIME to LOWI. Landing on rw 08 planned. Until RTT and at the following flight against the landing direction everything is clear. Only at the turn to the left on rw 08 the altitude of 9400 feet was not sufficient and the crash took place on the mountain slope.

But that should not be a reason not to release the new version.

Gretting an good luck
ruetzi
I found the elevation function quite reliable, I'll test it again though.
Thanks for reporting.
a.
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ntnll
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Re: Release Candidate (RC) Version - Download and Feedback

Post by ntnll » Thu Oct 24, 2019 5:18 pm

ruetzi wrote:
Thu Oct 24, 2019 2:50 pm
Flight from LIME to LOWI. Landing on rw 08 planned. Until RTT and at the following flight against the landing direction everything is clear. Only at the turn to the left on rw 08 the altitude of 9400 feet was not sufficient and the crash took place on the mountain slope.

But that should not be a reason not to release the new version.

Greeting an good luck
ruetzi
I tried the flight. I need to admit this is one of the worst scenario you can ask an virtual ATC to operate.
The only way to get in LOWI from rw 08, is to pass through that narrow corridor in the mountains, is extremely though to be elaborated by an algorithm. But I have in mind some workarounds for next release, that can ideally mitigate that issue. What you can try for now, is to disable approximation fixes creation and see if can helps in someway, but I don't expect big improvements anyway.

A.
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